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| EFFAH 10.06 |
07/09 09:30pm |
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| 1ST AT NACAC 10.06....OLD PB = 10.22... |
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| 07/10 04:22am |
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Effah: 14th on the IAAF Top List...
100 m
1 9.82 0.6 Asafa Powell JAM 23 Nov 82 188/87 1 GGala Roma 10 Jun
2 9.82 0.5 Usain Bolt JAM 21 Aug 86 196/88 1 Athl Lausanne 8 Jul
3 9.89+ -0.4 Tyson Gay USA 9 Aug 82 173/75 1 Great CityG Manchester 16 May
4 9.95 0.8 Ivory Williams USA 2 May 85 173/77 1 KansasR Lawrence KS 17 Apr
5 9.96 0.5 Yohan Blake JAM 26 Dec 89 181/73 2 Athl Lausanne 8 Jul
6 9.98 0.0 Walter Dix USA 31 Jan 86 178/84 1 Seminole Tallahassee FL 8 May
7 9.98 NUR 1.3 Christophe Lemaître FRA 11 Jun 90 189/74 1 NC Valence 9 Jul
8 9.99 1.1 Dwain Chambers GBR 5 Apr 78 180/83 1 ETC Bergen 19 Jun
9 10.00 1.4 Rae Edwards USA 7 May 81 183/77 1rB adidas New York NY 12 Jun
10 10.00 -0.1 Daniel Bailey ANT 9 Sep 86 179/68 1 Reims 30 Jun
11 10.01 1.4 Keston Bledman TRI 8 Mar 88 183/75 2rB adidas New York NY 12 Jun
12 10.01 1.7 Richard Thompson TRI 7 Jun 85 187/79 1 NC Port-of-Spain 26 Jun
13 10.03A 1.6 Churandy Martina AHO 3 Jul 84 180/68 1 UTEP Inv El Paso TX 10 Apr
14 10.06 1.3 Jeffery Demps USA 8 Jan 90 175/77 1 SEC Knoxville TN 16 May
15 10.06 1.2 Mike Rodgers USA 24 Apr 85 175/75 1 Caixa Río de Janeiro
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Coq10 |
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reg: Sep '06
posts: 237 |
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| 07/10 06:06pm |
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Okay again i'm the f**king conspiracy theorist, i know i know......but jesus christ. this damn meet has produced some results that are literally hard to believe.
I don't know if its due to a fast track or a suspect wind gauge.
take for instance the women's and men's 200m.
Amon Nelson runs 24-23.7 all year, runs 23.25w in the semis
Kim Hycinthe runs 24.1 in europe and runs 23.31w in the semis.
Tyler Harper runs 20.91 (who is that?)
but the major shocker is Curtis Mitchell who is a good runner no doubt. He competes for Texas A&M, regional champ, conference champ, 2nd at NCs. He typically runs 20.3-5 (a few 20.2's) and runs 19.99seconds 1.2w.
lets not forget Ronnie Ash, who finished 4th at NC's run 12.98w in the hurdles....
Now come on, i'm not saying that this shit is totally from left field, but we'll see if these athletes come back home, on canadian soil and run anything within 2tenth of what they ran at this meet.
I smell La Loma all over again! 
Post Edited by Coq10. Time: 07/10 06:08pm
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| 07/10 06:23pm |
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| pretty sure its not tyler harper...pretty sure its michael robertson running with another name |
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| 07/10 06:31pm |
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Quoting: fastrunner88
"pretty sure its not tyler harper...pretty sure its michael robertson running with another name"
Or Daniel Harper.......which would be the more logical assumption. Also, Daniel Harper's PB was 21.05, which would make this result a good improvement, but nothing overly suspicious.
Post Edited by Nike_Track. Time: 07/10 06:37pm
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| 07/10 07:55pm |
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| Tyler Harper is AKA Daniel `Dash`Harper. 20.91 +1.2 is a new personal best. Previous best 20.92 +0.6 at Canada Games in August of last year. Michael Robertson did not attend the Championships in Florida, and possibly may be out for the rest of the season. |
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| 07/10 11:55pm |
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Quoting: Coq10
"Okay again i'm the f**king conspiracy theorist, i know i know......but jesus christ. this damn meet has produced some results that are literally hard to believe.
I don't know if its due to a fast track or a suspect wind gauge.
take for instance the women's and men's 200m.
Amon Nelson runs 24-23.7 all year, runs 23.25w in the semis
Kim Hycinthe runs 24.1 in europe and runs 23.31w in the semis.
Tyler Harper runs 20.91 (who is that?)
but the major shocker is Curtis Mitchell who is a good runner no doubt. He competes for Texas A&M, regional champ, conference champ, 2nd at NCs. He typically runs 20.3-5 (a few 20.2's) and runs 19.99seconds 1.2w.
lets not forget Ronnie Ash, who finished 4th at NC's run 12.98w in the hurdles....
Now come on, i'm not saying that this shit is totally from left field, but we'll see if these athletes come back home, on canadian soil and run anything within 2tenth of what they ran at this meet.
I smell La Loma all over again! "
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| 07/10 11:58pm |
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| You are perhaps right, the Master Of Wind was seen eating an Hamburger around the track...LOL... |
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| 07/11 12:23am |
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| Track is simply fast. Winds have been great. Minus day one in morning. Newest type of Mondo. |
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Coq10 |
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reg: Sep '06
posts: 237 |
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| 07/11 03:00am |
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Quoting: Relaxays
"You are perhaps right, the Master Of Wind was seen eating an Hamburger around the track...LOL..."
this type of thing happens every year. pan am juniors last year in trinidad, same thing, la loma a few years ago, same thing. athletes who typically run (women's 200: 23.7) run 23.1 at one meet and then once they return, right back to the same ol' same ol'.
take a look at the clermont, florida results from earlier this year. Kelli-ann Baptiste from Trinidad ran 10.84!!!, Shalonda Soloman 10.90!!!!, Alexandria Anderson 11.0. Neither soloman or anderson made the US 100m final two weeks ago, and haven't come close to those times since.
I'm telling you, there's something up. we'll see when reality strikes. |
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| 07/11 04:29am |
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| Hey give athletes their respect and congradulations. Track is not a sport judged on laurels, but your last race, jump, or throw. The meet is shaping up to be great just look at womens hammer and vault, people are competing and let's celebrate amazing competition in north america in stead of acting like it's the watergate of meets, it is being run by usatf |
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Coq10 |
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reg: Sep '06
posts: 237 |
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| 07/11 06:23am |
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Quoting: RealTalk
"Hey give athletes their respect and congradulations. Track is not a sport judged on laurels, but your last race, jump, or throw. The meet is shaping up to be great just look at womens hammer and vault, people are competing and let's celebrate amazing competition in north america in stead of acting like it's the watergate of meets, it is being run by usatf "
I don't have any personal quarrels against any athlete, especially a Canadian athlete, but I'm calling this meet suspect, because it is, bottom line.
don't believe me, wait two weeks when these athletes step back on Canadian soil at nationals on a relatively slow track.....thats all i'm saying.
track and field isn't about your most recent race, its about your next one, thats the defining factor in a legitimate run, if you can produce it again! |
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kris |
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reg: Aug '02
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| 07/11 12:18pm |
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If the surface is super x, the newest mondo the times are very possible... most of the athletes were peaking for the event im sure....
for all the haters out there, lets see what their next runs will be? What happens if Effah goes 10.01? Will people still question his 10.06? It's normal people question any good result in north america unless it's bolt/gay/powell lining up. |
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Coq10 |
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reg: Sep '06
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| 07/11 12:50pm |
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Quoting: kris
"If the surface is super x, the newest mondo the times are very possible... most of the athletes were peaking for the event im sure....
for all the haters out there, lets see what their next runs will be? What happens if Effah goes 10.01? Will people still question his 10.06? It's normal people question any good result in north america unless it's bolt/gay/powell lining up."
If effah runs 10.01 at nationals/before/after i'll eat crow, i'll film it and upload it on to this site.
kris you're an agent right, you should know about this type of thing happening more frequently then the trackie community understands |
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| 07/11 04:22pm |
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I do not comment at all but I do visit this site often. I am just very tired of people hating or ragging on people who work hard and I do feel most of the posts you make are tailored in belittling people ideas and performances.I feel track and field in Canada cannot break the barrier of high productivity because of the crab in the bucket mentality of people like you.
Although, I do agree with you about reproducing great marks, but you need to start somewhere and for athletes who had success have faith in them to be able to reproduce again. I do still feel, you are only as good as your last race, and for Sam is 10.06, Mitchell is 19.99, and Ash is a 12.98w.
PS go watch Ash's 13.31 in the cold and rain with 0.9 m/s and tell me with a fast track and great weather he could not dip under with a tail wind!! |
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Coq10 |
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reg: Sep '06
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| 07/11 04:42pm |
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Quoting: RealTalk
"I do not comment at all but I do visit this site often. I am just very tired of people hating or ragging on people who work hard and I do feel most of the posts you make are tailored in belittling people ideas and performances.I feel track and field in Canada cannot break the barrier of high productivity because of the crab in the bucket mentality of people like you.
Although, I do agree with you about reproducing great marks, but you need to start somewhere and for athletes who had success have faith in them to be able to reproduce again. I do still feel, you are only as good as your last race, and for Sam is 10.06, Mitchell is 19.99, and Ash is a 12.98w.
PS go watch Ash's 13.31 in the cold and rain with 0.9 m/s and tell me with a fast track and great weather he could not dip under with a tail wind!!"
again I repeat, i'm not hating on anyone, i have nothing but positive vibes towards those athletes mentioned, but when an entire group of athletes improve by several tenths of a second from previous season or career performances, all in the same meet.....people raise questions about the meet. plain and simple, thats just the issue with track and field, is that until you can prove you can do it again, then that doubt will always exist. if effah runs 10.16 in his next few meets, then i'd say yeah, great run at NACAC but if he goes back to running 10.2-3, then again eyebrows will be raised with his 10.06.
10.06 is 5th all time in Canada, a result that is essentially historic, and when it comes from leftfield its raises some doubt.
do you honestly think this is first time something like this has happened before?
i have a list as long as my arm of performances that are 2-3 tenths superior of previous or 2nd best performance. I want to believe its the grace of God, but theres more to things the what the time says on the paper!
USATF Olympic trials 08 quarter finals 100m men/women....check the results
Clermont Florida 2010 (earlier this summer) women 100m.....check the results
Pan Am Juniors 2009 Trinidad and Tobago 100m men/women.....check the results
I say check the results, because frankly the performances are astonishing and well beyond what most the athletes could duplicate under normal circumstances.....
Post Edited by Coq10. Time: 07/11 04:50pm
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| 07/12 02:00pm |
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| Coq10, I will give you this one...wonder, wonder about those results...but hten again, a fast track is a fast track....BUT................weird, fast results.... |
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| 07/12 07:51pm |
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Speaking for Sam...
Sam was already sitting on a personal and seasonal best of 10.22. A week ago at Harry Jerome Sam ran 10.27 into a -0.7 headwind, at 9:30pm on a very cool evening. In the process he beat Rae Edwards who has a season best of 10.00, which he set a few weeks earlier at the NYC Grand Prix.
The wind differential alone between NACAC and Harry Jerome is +2.4. Add in incredibly warm weather at Miramar and a brand new Mondo Super X track, and it isn't very hard to see how Sam busted out that time. |
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